This episode is for anyone who fancies a fine fabric. Cecelia Grey aka Ceceliaisgray joins me in trying to be normal about Our Flag Means Death. We discuss the explosion of its fandom (which she has been tracking through the Archive of Our Own), incredible fanfiction tags, the season 2 renewal, and the Snapeification of Israel Hands, among other things. In her own words: "I've just never seen a fandom like this before."

Cecelia's TikTok: @ceceliaisgray

Allison's twitter: @allyspock

The show's twitter: @itsallfandom