In this episode, we’re joined by the design duo David Gordon & TAM.

From co-designing within an established publisher to founding their own company, UP Games, we dive into what that transition really looks like behind the scenes.

How does collaboration change when you’re not just designing games—but also running the company?

What happens to creative freedom, decision-making, and responsibility?

We round off the episode by taking a closer look at one of their released titles, Floristry, and an upcoming game, Scurry Up!

An episode about game design, entrepreneurship—and everything in between.

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