In this experimental pilot episode of a potential new podcast called “The Wrong Side of History”, Gleib on the left is joined by Lee Trink on the right, an activist, Trump supporter, former president of Capitol Records, and former CEO of FaZe Clan, to discuss and debate the big issues of the day. They debate Elon Musk and all the DOGE cuts, the Arkansas anti-trans bill that would hold people liable for even giving someone an opposite gender haircut, the Trump administration Signal chat war plans Pete Hegseth fiasco, and Trump’s controversial deportations, from Mahmoud Khalil to the Guatemalan nationals deported to El Salvador for suspected gang ties. This is a pilot so please let us know what you thing. DMs are open @bengleib and @leetrink on Instagram.