How we talk about photography can often be wrought with controversy, hurt feelings, and leaves a lot to be desired for those seeking authentic feedback. When I came across the writings of today's guest on Episode 268 of the F-Stop Collaborate and Listen podcast, Michael Rubin (or just Rubin for short), it was eye-opening for me. Rubin has created eight useful ways to describe and measure your photos I was really excited to get him onto the podcast to talk about his ideas for how to discuss photographic artwork.

On this week's episode, we also discuss:

• Photographic Haiku,

Other topics discussed on the podcast this week:

• Workshops with Rubin.

Here is who Rubin recommended on the podcast this week:

• Jerry Uelsmann.

If you enjoyed today's episode with Rubin, you can catch our bonus episode on Patreon where we talk about Wabi Sabi - the traditional Japanese world view centered on the acceptance of transience and imperfection.

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