They talk about traveling around the world and getting established in Tennessee, how they met, interviews for Waking Infinity, Ben's travels to Montreal, timeless wisdom, Ben's Google video film Esoteric Agenda, Youtube shows and Gaia shows, Magic Plant with Pete Evans, the responsibility of influencing with art, the Zeitgeist media festival, Burning Man, art and consciousness, David Icke, Psychadelica, DMT Quest, Limitless, human potential, natural DMT production, the effects of darkness on the human brain, plant medicines, integrating and understanding dark experiences, the art of listening and being a true friend, recent world changes, the first global event, epi-artistic phenomena on a global scale, where to find truth, getting out of comfort zones and awakening truth, telephone data technologies, artificial intelligence and cyborg terrariums, nanotechnology, how technology impacts modern life, getting past differences, plant medicines and psychedelics,  Ben's music career, his band Hierosonic, composing soundtracks for films, and finding your voice.