Nature and humanity. Nature or humanity? The path human beings are walking has proven to be toxic to our environment. There are limits to our growth on a planet with limited resources. What can we do to curb the dangerous trajectory of unconscious consumerism of modern society? In this dialogue, Ikeda and his two interlocutors from the Thoreau society share insights from the American renaissance. It is fascinating how timely these discussions are in the times of pandemic, racial tensions, and global inequality. Find out more as I share my reflections on this dialogue. Enjoy!