This week I interviewed Dr. Marco Antonio De Carvalho, a professor of computer science at Universidade Federal de Ouro Preto. He is the first in his family to pursue college and eventually a PhD in computer science. Coming from a rural small town and low socioeconomic background, he had to be persistent and consistent in order to reach his goal. Tune in to learn more about the academic system in Brazil and being first gen has impacted Marco.