In this program Areti interviews Gilbert. Plus a section of the Hsin-hsin Ming text read by Ram Dass.

Gilbert is available for Skype calls for those who resonate with what is being pointed out. Email him for details.

“The ones who say they know it – are the ones who will impose it on you” – from the lyrics of the first and last song on this program – a song by The Klezmatics – there is a link to one of their videos on their name.

Music includes – The Klezmatics (I ain’t afraid), The Beatles, Cat Stevens, Michael O’Suilleabhain (Piano piece), Lothlorien (Australian Band), Bob Dylan, Jethro Tull, Al Stewart, Colorblind James Experience.

Ram Dass reads the Hsin-hsin Ming (part two) – Verses on the Faith-Mind – By Seng-ts’an, Third Chinese Patriarch of Chan (Zen) – a translation into English by Richard Clarke.

Gilbert’s website

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