We discuss Man On Man again – but unlike the last time, this one's for positive reasons, as we talk to Roddy Bottum and Joey Holman about their gloriously gay project, and why it matters.

Our Camp Classic this week is the time-travelling oddity 'Save Us From Those Who Would Save Us' by Hell (the NWOBHM act Andy Sneap revived) from their 2011 via 1983 album Human Remains. And while this one has wide queer relevance, it's of particular relevant to the experience of one half of the podcast.

Plus the HCGB jukebox sees Matt add Fortitude by Gojira, and Tom add VII – Kenoma by Fyrnask.