How do we really decarbonise heavy industry? And can sustainability be a business success at the same time? In our latest ESFORIN Change Makers episode, we sit down with Christian Grapatin, Partner at Monitor Deloitte, to explore one of the toughest nuts to crack in the #energytransition: the decarbonisation of heavy industry. We address the disruptive aspects, from why Germany is at risk of deindustrialisation, to how companies can turn sustainability into commercial success.