This is the FIRST of a series of conversations that we're bringing to the podcast which are simply me and Henare O'Brien (my husband of 17 years, and business partner) sitting on the blue couch in my office and chatting about stuff that we find interesting or useful. Throughout the conversations, we'll be talking about all things relationships, growth, parenting and anything in between.

Each of these episodes will be titled "KATE & HENARE" at the start, so you know when an episode is one of these.

Today we’re chatting about...

- How we give ourselves space to grow individually in a long term relationship

- Stepping into things fully and finding out who we are in the process

- Dealing with problems

- The patterns that I’ve come up against in our relationship

- Forward momentum growth vs navel-gazing conversations