Who’s at fault when a phishing attack succeeds twice in a row? Guest Lemuel Williams joins David Lee and Mike Kiser as they argue the ins and outs of cyber insurance in the real-world case of a bank breached twice in quick succession—and a cyber insurer that refuses to pay. The Broadcom acquisition of CA, why AI is doomed to fail in cybersecurity, and the saga of car technology stolen from Apple—only to be recovered just before the thief boarded a plane, and the looming death of Mike’s air condition-less car are also discussed.