In this 28th Episode of Chris Dyer's Podcast show, he goes to Colorado to interview his friend Vincent Gordon.  Gordon is a psychedelic pop artist.     They talk about living in Colorado and his roots in Chicago, the Colorado art community, building collaborations, how they met at the Chalice festival, getting into cannabis culture and propaganda, mainstream appreciation of cannabis, being framed by police as a young man, being a challenger, the visionary art community in Colorado, a forced pause, life changes and evolutions, escaping reality, staycations, jungle juice, his art, digital and studio painting, art business structures, self-acceptance, pop culture deprivation and celebration, the Grateful Dead, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, Melty Bros collaboration with Aaron Brooks, racial discussions, dealing with abuse, supporting friends, Blue Bench, the responsibilities of public life, and art therapy.