We check in with Brandi Willis Schreiber, whose first book, A Long Walk with Mary touched so many people -- and impressed Elissa mightily with her poetic skill at making the desert landscape of West Texas achingly beautiful. They talk about writing, and about life's many chapters. Brandi has a children's book coming out soon, and shares her insights on making a place our own, the joys of being jiu jitsu-chopped by a five year old, and on beauty in general.

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