Seja talks to her guest Mike Stroud (Ratatat, Kunzite) about his new band and the difficulty to stay up with social media trends to support album releases these days. They talk about the first songs they learned to play, their soundcheck songs and their issues with never knowing when to stop layering instruments when they record. Mike and Seja discuss first impressions, how classical music theory helped form Ratatat’s style, working with people such as Kid Cudi and getting to watch Jay-Z write raps in a corner before his perfect 1-take delivery. And bugs! Their shared phobia of bugs.

Mike’s strange show story is illustrated by Paul Curtis (Valve, Consume).

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