We're back with part 2 of our conversation with the one and only Gary Gray Jr. (@garyrgrayjr on Twitter and Instagram) where we dive into our need to listen to more than one story and hear a lot more about Gary and Wil's experience as black men. We also talked about what Wil called THE EDUCATION OF TRUTH and how we can work back to make decisions based on a shared set of facts.  A moment that stood out to us is when Gary talked about how his wife (@narinramani) says that you can love your country and still put it on trial. As it usually does with our only five time guest things got a little bit heavy, but in the way that it only can with family! We hope you'll take a listen and while you're at it please go subscribe to the Gary's podcast-- It's Personal!

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