Deborah reads and reflects on her poem "Counting Poems" where she compares how many she's written compared to others, and reframes the 'distractions' of parenting as a kind of poetry itself. This episode is about freeing ourselves from the deadening effects of competition with others and ourselves, getting out of our own way in order to hear the still, small voices of creativity. The listener prompt is: Reflect on success as measured in a meaningful, personal way. Send to us at [email protected]