What happens when an up-and-coming European bioscientist flips from Darwin disciple to Darwin defector? Dr. Jonathan Witt, senior fellow of Discovery Institute's Center for Science and Culture, joins me to talk about the journey of Finnish bioscientist Dr. Matti Leisola as we discuss the new book they co-wrote, "Heretic: One Scientist's Journey from Darwin to Design." That and much more on Monday's JANET MEFFERD TODAY.