What can a mathematics lecturer teach us about belonging?

In this episode of The Bold Blueprint, Barbi and Jamie sit down with Dr. Poon Leung - a university lecturer whose reflections on learning, safety, and human connection are deeply relevant to anyone working in education and care.

From lecture halls to early childhood services, Poon’s message is clear: relationships come first. He shares why listening is a learned skill, how emotional safety drives learning, and what happens when we stop leading with assumptions and start leading with awareness.

We explore the parallels between high school to university transitions and children entering care for the first time, draw links between logic and love, and unpack what adaptive leadership looks like in real life.

This is a conversation for anyone who believes in putting people before processes, and who sees sincerity not as a weakness - but as the start of real connection.

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