This episode Dago is in full-prep mode for his Twitter course launch and talks about how the early access has helped them. Both of us are no stranger to burnout, so we discuss both our approaches to avoiding it, including revealing how many hours we both work each week. I think you’ll be surprised by our answers here.

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What we covered in this episode:

• What we think about AI tools
• James updates
  • Cars dying, frustrated with life problems
  • James' thoughts on New York
  • Slippery slope of falling behind on work
• Dago’s updates
  • Dago prepping for the course launch
  • Working when movitvated from positive feedback
  • How doing early access has helped Dago
  • Doing "busy" work
  • Dealing with burnout
  • Meme of the Week
  • Does he like being known as "the meme guy"?

About Dagobert
Previously a money-chasing software engineer, but now building his own startup with his wife, Logology (that's the name of the startup, not his wife). It took them more than two years just to build a product and had to use most of our savings just to survive. They launched it and got almost no sales, pushing him to learn marketing. Last year, after some experiments, he found a marketing channel that worked by using Twitter. Now he has 45k followers and the business is finally going. As of the start of this pod, his business is on $3k p/m, with a goal to reach $5k p/m to avoid dwindling savings and to pay themselves a salary.

• Dagobert's Twitter
• Logology - high quality logos and brands
• Memelogy - the best startup memes

About James
James left his cushty full-time job marketing job in April 2021. Since then, he's been hacking together income from his other podcast, Indie Bites, and podcast editing service, Pod Panda. The podcast does around $1k p/m in sponsor revenue and Pod Panda makes $2k p/m. But with a $4-5k burn every month, he's digging a very deep hole. James' goal is to get to around $10k per month across his products, get myself out of that hole and have fun while doing it. 

• James' Twitter
• Indie Bites - indie founder chats
• 2 Hour Podcast - podcasting course
• Whitstable Craft Co - handmade leather wallets
• PodPanda - podcast editing