Casey Clapp, master arborist and co-host along with Alex Crowson of the inimitable Completely Arbortrary: the podcast about trees and other related topics, joins us to discuss the ways in which the natural world invades our personal life.

This includes romantic intrusions, being unable to enjoy film and television because of arboreal mistakes on-screen, and leaving behind a promising career as a Shakespearean for a career in tree podcasting.

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