In one of our most personal episodes yet, Will Leitch sits down with Rev Ian Harbinson and Dr Olwyn Mark to explore assisted suicide and euthanasia through the lens of lived experience. Ian shares honestly about life with cancer - the fears, the hopes, and the surprising moments of grace along the way, including his ministry with those also living with cancer. Olwyn reflects on walking with her father through his final days and how palliative care supported not just him but their whole family.

Together, they offer a deeply human look at what real care can look like at the end of life, and why these stories matter in today’s debate.