What about the 2020 Election:

Was is stolen, was there wide spread voter fraud, was there enough voter fraud for a steal?, was voter fraud as prevalent as actual, algorithmic transference of votes from one candidate to another? Either this stuff did happen or it didn’t. If it didn’t, it’s stupid to even talk about, but if it did happen, there is no way to talk about it enough. If the election was not stolen, then there are nefarious people using that political drumbeat as a ploy to unconstitutionally force their chosen candidate, aka Donald Trump, back into office. This goes beyond being a sore loser, this is a whole other level of sinister subversion that is not at all good for our country. However, if the election was stolen, we have essentially lost the republic. If there exists people who can steal the American presidential election, there are people who can do almost anything. I mean what could be more ambitious than that. I would consider that Tower of Babel level impressive and Tower of Babel level dystopian. 

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