Can we account for consciousness in the terms of physical science? You may have heard about zombies and black and white Mary, but I think it all hangs and falls on something called the "Revelation Argument." In this episode, I discuss the revelation argument with Michelle Liu, who's one of the most interesting philosophers writing on this topic. Let me know what you think!

If you’re interested in digging a little deeper, Michelle sent me over some of her writing in this are, which I've listed on my ⁠Substack⁠

For more on Michelle Liu: ⁠Her Website⁠

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