On this episode we share in an engaging conversation with David Hayward (aka, the naked pastor) and Charlie Baber (creator WesleyBros). We talk about art as ministry and art as therapy as well as the work of creating engaging and introspective art and dialogue about difficult issues related to spiritual, mental, and physical life. 

This is an exciting conversation, one you don't want to miss.

David can be found at nakedpastor.com and on Facebook and Twitter.

You can also find his books at Amazon.

Charlie can be found at www.wesleybros.com and on Facebook.