@SocratesITC conversation asks why Western civilization seems bent on self-destruction, and what modern art, politics, and prestige did to beauty and standards, featuring @HMDatMI and @rogerkimball. TIMESTAMPS(0:00) Intro (0:28) Todd Chatman Joins (8:21)  Heather Mac Donald and Roger Kimball Join(15:38) What Makes Art Good(27:39) Beauty And Prestige

(42:46) Why West Self Blames (49:24) Merit And Taste Debate

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