Legendary Batman writer Denny O’Neil talks about why he thinks Batman is one of the best storytelling tools around, what went into the creation of Ra’s al Ghul, and how he shifted Batman from campy policeman to dark vigilante detective in the 1970s. But first, Deb Tarica (UCB, @instantdeborah) and I talk about the animated Ra’s, goopy lazarus pits, and Burt Ward’s actual brand of dog food. Rate + Subscribe in iTunes! Follow @BTAS for updates. Donate at patreon.com/btaspodcast.