Darren and Eshaan are joined by Harriet Dyer to talk about what happens when you're suddenly in charge of children, whether you're really responsible for your bad teenage behaviour, and find out that Eshaan actually is ashamed of something after all...

Produced by Alice Rosenthal and Owen Hughes.

Eshaan is on tour - buy tickets here!

Darren is going on tour too - buy tickets here!

Harriet does her own podcast - and runs Barking Tales.

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