In part two of this conversation, MC chill and I talk about the sound of Cleveland, Todd Samms - the Clevelander (by way of Shaker Heights) who started out dancing for Levert and ended up teaching Beyoncé - Usher and Chris Brown, how to dance, and the epic true story of the time Art McCoy of Black on Black Crime Inc. (Cleveland's answer to Al Sharpton) stole my grandmother.