Natalie Negrotti is a BOSS, but is she fake? Ms. Negrotti stops by the pod to talk about her many career paths, why she took a break from competition reality TV, what it was like to be outed, and if she really is "fake" like some of her former castmates like to claim. She also gets REAL about her Venezuelan roots and what is next in her career. This meeting was a long time coming and Natalie is a role model in so many ways.

Paige is also joined by fellow Challenge fan, Jennifer Nissim, to talk about the finale of All Stars and celebrate Jonna and MJ's win. The ladies talk about production errors that stood out this season, what they would change about the final, and the incredible women that carried this season.

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