This week Mike (little Mike) and Bryan are joined with special guest Mike Mulvey Sr (Big Mike). Big Mike recounts his experiences at AT&T in the ‘70s & ‘80s including his work with DARPA, the first fiber optic networks and all sorts of other nerdy stuff like propagation delays and attenuation standards. Big Mike also explains why your land line telephone (usually) never goes down when the power goes out. Michael and Bryan also discuss the Linklater films Boyhood and Dazed and Confused, as well as best practices in project management.