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On this episode with Neal and Julie, they discuss the evolving immigration policies under the Trump administration, particularly the repurposing of an app previously used by the Biden administration to facilitate illegal entry. Now, it is being used to encourage voluntary self-deportation with the opportunity for legal re-entry. They analyze how this approach is a strategic move that makes it difficult for Democrats to argue against, as it emphasizes humane treatment and adherence to the law.

Neal and Julie also reflect on past policies affecting immigration, industry needs, and the political implications of these changes. They dive into the importance of a legal and reliable workforce, particularly in agriculture, and explore whether these shifts could lead to a broader realignment of voter loyalties.

Additionally, they take a look back at the early days of the COVID-19 pandemic, recalling the initial reactions, lockdowns, and the role media and government played in shaping public fear. They discuss how certain public figures pushed back against restrictions and how those early decisions continue to impact public trust in institutions today.

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