On this week’s show Matt and Julia talk with critical futurist Johannes Kleske about how the future is as much of a way to deal with the present as anything else.

You can find out more about Johannes and his work at https://johanneskleske.com/en/

Matt’s small collection of historical visions of the future is here: https://mmitii.mattballantine.com/2015/02/27/envisaging-the-future/

And the Walter Kronkite video is here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7TUZ_x57d8