This final official Hard to Believe episode is a bit of a personal indulgence - I have been listening to Garry Stevens’ History in the Bible podcast for years. In fact, when we bought a house a couple years ago, this was my official “packing” podcast.

Garry’s show is unique among history (and especially religious history) podcasts, in that he comes in with no pretense of objectivity and looks at the subject through the lens of a secular humanist without an axe to grind. 

He presents the material with a rare mix of clarity, warmth, and humor. 

I’ve wanted to have him on since my first season, but could never really figure out the right time. As fate would have it, History in the Bible is ending its 8-year run in the next few months, so it seemed like a good place to end my podcast too.

Thanks for listening over the last few years, and I hope you enjoy the show's next chapter as it morphs into Pod Only Knows in two weeks. We know we've enjoyed making it so far!

-John

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Garry's website: https://www.historyinthebible.com/