Abi Ayres is a social media influencer that I absolutely love and have wanted on the podcast for a long time. I hope you enjoy this interview because it takes a unique twist towards the end where Abi asks me about how i've changed. We talk all about personal beliefs, mom guilt, religion, business, and how to hold space for others that are living differently than us and how to remove judgement. We talk about growth and change and how that can look weird to others and how to find confidence in your own weirdness. Abi and I discuss bitterness and how we can release bitterness from religion or society.

You can find Abi and her new herbal tea company on instagram @abiayres and @theherbalteaco