Episode 32 of Books and Ideas is an interview with Sheril Kirshenbaum, co-author of "Unscientific America: How Scientific Illiteracy Threatens our Future." Our emphasis is on the importance of scientists learning to communicate about their work to political leaders and fellow citizens. We discuss some of the factors that have marginalized science and examine some creative potential solutions.Go to http://booksandideas.com for detailed show notes and episode transcripts.Send feedback to gincampbell at mac dot com or call our new voicemail line at 206-984-0358.