Josh Van Es ( @ryftt_ ) is a drummer and percussionist who has played in Jimmy Buffett & Led Zeppelin cover bands. As a former co-worker with Jason, we catch up about life and the lessons we hope to learn as we get older. We vibe on the creative process, getting in the groove, flow states, and altered states of consciousness. If there are any musicians looking to jam or make original music in the Vista, North County area of San Diego, reach out and get in touch.

Ending Song: Bill Withers - Use me