Up a hill observing sunrise, Ronni is joined by the amazing Natascha. Natascha and I met late the day before when we were both desperately looking for somewhere to stay. Since there was nothing to be found, we joined forces and dragged ourselves five kilometres up a steep hill, whilst having a giggle about bins on wheels, football rivalries, and my bad German.

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'The Camino is Storytelling' is the second season of 'The World is Storytelling' podcast, recorded while hiking on the Caminos Primitivo & Finisterre, from Oviedo in Asturias to Cabo Finisterre in Galicia. Thank you to all those who helped along the way. From those who recorded with me, walked with me, gave me the space to walk alone, and supported the idea. Special thanks goes to Altberg for the amazing boots, that again gave me no blisters.

The World is Storytelling podcast is based on the book by the same name. Written by Arjen Barel, Ronni Gurwicz, and Stu Packer, it is the definitive guide to how sharing stories can be used for social impact and personal growth.