This week on the podcast I had the pleasure of speaking with a friend of mine, Kirk Miller on what makes strong men. Stemming from Kirk challenging a quote I shared recently on my Facebook page, our conversation covers the surprisingly complex topic of masculinity and its effect on our society. While Kirk and I don't agree on alot of things, I appreciate greatly the insight he brings as a husband, father, veteran and a member of the Mt Hood Ski Patrol.

Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times. // G. Michael Hopf

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