Delain vocalist Charlotte Wessels and keyboardist Martijn Westerholt join us on the podcast this week. We discuss the band's new record, Apocalypse and Chill, their ideas for the best possible apocalypse experience, the hopeful vibe that the lyrical approach on the record conveys despite the dark subject matter, the use of technology in the making of the album, the importance of never planning a direction when creating music, Charlotte’s desire to sing the album’s ballad live on stage, and the heavier presence of electronics this time around. We also discuss Martijn's trip to Las Vegas to get married and the romantic milestones we endure to celebrate our partners.

Petar, Brandon, and Jozalyn tackle yet another sad death in the metal family with the death of Corrosion of Conformity drummer Reed Mullin, as well as Kobe Bryant's passing and the metal community's reaction to it.

Songs: Corrosion of Conformity - “13 Angels," Delain - “One Second” and “Burning Bridges”