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On this episode with Neal and Julie, they discuss Michelle Obama's firm stance on not running for president and analyze the Democratic Party's search for a strong candidate. They also delve into the ongoing political climate, including perceptions of Joe Biden’s presidency, Donald Trump’s strategic moves, and controversies surrounding remarks made by Representative Jasmine Crockett and Greg Abbott. Additionally, they explore the tension in Idaho politics regarding Representative Stephanie Mickelson’s stance on immigration and the repercussions of calling ICE on her family’s farm. The conversation rounds out with a humorous debate on whether anyone truly likes kale. Tune in for lively discussion, political insights, and a few laughs along the way! 

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