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 After the Pam Bondi debacle we talk with a former supporter of Donald Trump who once trusted the Fox News bubble and backed tough immigration policies and tariffs without question. But after feeling the economic hit from those tariffs and seeing the human toll of actions by U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, their perspective began to change.

They share what it’s like to question long-held beliefs, step outside an echo chamber, and rethink party loyalty. We also discuss how the Democratic Party can welcome people who are ready to move forward without shame or gatekeeping.

A candid conversation about growth, accountability, and the courage to change your mind.

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