Design Verification is a discipline that sits on the boundary between hardware and software -- many of the same engineering skills come into play, but the end goal is to ship a piece of silicon! And the design space keep getting exponentially larger, yet the number of DV engineers is held constant, so what can a CPU designer do? Listen in as Allan Rudwick and Carson Bunker sit down and chat about the methods used to verify Ampere's custom cores and SoC products.