It's a very special MICRO episode of Keeping Athena Company, recorded during Library Laughs, a fundraiser for The Library of Africa and the African Diaspora held last month.

I "tricked" Ella into a quick chat about dating, pooping on boats and literary festivals in Somalialand.

Ella is comedian, broadcaster, explorer, writer, palaeontologist and probably loads more - she's prolific. Follow her on her socials and buy her book using the links below:

Twitter: https://twitter.com/LittleMsFossil

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