Luther and Jobina dig into the new season (S2E1) of Shrinking on AppleTV (or is it AppleTV+). This show follows a therapist trying to get his own life together by leaning on friends, family, coworkers, and even some of his clients. This opens the door for our hosts to talk through some interesting questions and take a few fun detours. Topics include product placement, affirmations, taking risks and making mistakes on the job, and safe d*ck.

Jobina talks us through an interview she recently heard on the Modern Love podcast with therapist, Terry Real (https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/14/podcasts/family-men-therapy-terry-real.html).

Also, yaaaaaaaasssss to Jessica Williams. We see you, girl.