System Shift: Leading Change So Students Thrive

34: Why More Interventions Aren’t the Answer in Schools


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When schools feel overwhelmed by student needs, the instinct is often to add more interventions. But what if the real issue isn’t interventions, it’s Tier 1 systems?

In this episode, Drs. Gail, Mary Beth, and Leesa explore why strong core systems reduce the need for reactive support and how proactive, integrated Tier 1 practices create better outcomes for students and staff. They unpack the shift from crisis-driven “heroics” to purposeful system design, explain why silos undermine success, and share practical ways leaders can reflect on what’s already working.

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  • Why Tier 1 matters more than more interventions
  • Reactive vs. proactive systems in schools
  • What a strong Tier 1 actually looks like
  • Questions leaders should ask before adding support
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    System Shift: Leading Change So Students ThriveBy Dr. Gail Angus, Dr. Leesa Huang, and Dr. Mary Beth Kropp