This podcast interview focuses on the entrepreneurial journey to transform thoughtful validation of the problem into confident scaling of his SaaS business. My guest is Robbert Lodewijks, Co-founder and CEO of Hulo AI.

Robbert Lodewijks is an entrepreneur who understands the delicate balance between patience and ambition. His journey began with a profound realization during his studies in Taiwan - that impact requires more than just good technology. What makes Robbert's story intriguing is his methodical approach: spending four years in research before launching, then bootstrapping to validate, and only then accelerating with venture funding. This disciplined progression showcases a rare blend of scientific rigor and entrepreneurial instinct.

And this inspired me, and hence, I invited Robbert to my podcast. We explore how early-stage founders can build confidence through validation rather than rushing to scale. His insights reveal how methodical customer development, thoughtful bootstrapping, and strategic timing of funding can create a stronger foundation for growth. What's particularly fascinating is his scientific approach to sales and his insights on avoiding the common pitfalls of enterprise customer development.

Here's one of his quotes: 

"We have one really clear definition [of success], and that is in the amount of water that we have saved. In the end, that relates to all our goals, because if we save so many Olympic-sized swimming pools of drinking water, which is 4 million (our BHAG), then it also means that we will probably build a very profitable company and make a huge impact on the world.”

By listening to this podcast you will learn the following:

For more information about the guest from this week: 

Robbert Lodewijks 

Website: hulo.ai

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