In this conversation, Chain Assembly and Zach discuss various topics related to conventions, marketing strategies, and crowdfunding platforms. They talk about the transition to a new white labeling convention circuit business, compare different gaming conventions, and share their experiences and expectations at Origins. They also discuss marketing strategies for conventions, networking tips, and the benefits of promoting creators at events. The conversation touches on the ZineQuest projects and the challenges of marketing different types of projects. They also explore the use of live streaming platforms for marketing and the differences between crowdfunding platforms like Kickstarter and GameFound.