In this episode, special guest Charlie Gilkey—philosopher and founder of

Productive Flourishing and author of the forthcoming Start Finishing and

The Small Business Life Cycle—argues that all American citizens should

serve three years in the military. He claims that such an experience

engenders courage and fulfills a moral obligation of all citizens to

meaningfully participate in the national defense. Although José seems

persuaded by this idea, Danielle is not so sure.