Anthony tells Alex about his recent in-person event in Pheonix for the American Dental Hygienist Association and they discuss when the band has the groove but no flow.  They are joined this week by comic and speaker (who is funny), Frank King for a very frank and funny discussion about the transitions and traumas that lead to the TED Talk stage on multiple occasions with crowd favorite subjects like, "Mental Health and the Orgasm Treat Your Depression Single Handedly".  Frank King show vulnerability with his candidness about his mental health and the work he's put into his life, bodybuilding and performances.

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